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This report from the two-day event Revolution at Point Zero organised by Casco – Office for Art, Design and Theory in 2013 and lead by activist and philosopher Silvia Federici, provides a premise for thinking commons today, pushing off from the domestic sphere and into the realm of political struggle. Contributors included professor Tine De Moor, collective ASK! (Actie Schonen Kunsten) and trade union FNV Bondgenoten among many others who attempted to source collective practices we might envision as commons.

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April 18, 2014

Revolution at Point Zero. Discussing the Commons with Silvia Federici and Tine De Moor

Last year, New York-based activist and philosopher Silvia Federici lead two days of lectures on the commons from 31 January–1 February, organised by Casco – Office for Art, Design and Theory in Utrecht, centred around the ideas raised in her book Revolution at Point Zero: Housework, Reproduction, and Feminist Struggle (2012).1 In introducing Federici and announcing “Composing the Commons” as a motto guiding the coming years’ program at Casco, Casco director Binna Choi mentioned that Federici’s presentation was part of the living research project initiated in 2009 titled the Grand Domestic Revolution (GDR).2 Choi detailed how GDR explores communal ways of working and living involving a wide a range of activities inspired by nineteenth-century Materialist Feminism, a movement that organised cooperative domestic work. Various types of collectives or groups have been engaged in the development of GDR since, she continued, creating a network of collaborations spread throughout different countries. Where the domestic space is conceived of as a “ground zero” for starting change that can apply to a broader social realm and social systems, the commons is at the core of this change.

In addition to Federici, on the first day of lectures at Casco contributors included Tine De Moor, an outspoken voice in the Dutch discourse around the commons and director of Institutions of Collective Action and professor at Utrecht University, and initial respondents Dutch artists coalition Platform Beeldende Kunst and artist Elke Uitentuis from Artists Occupy Amsterdam. Eluding strict definitions, the commons were then discussed in presentations by Federici and De Moor and subsequent Q&A sessions with the audience. De Moor pinpointed the way in which self-organised groups or so-called private-public partnerships are often market-driven, concluding that commons are not a weapon against privatisation but an alternative which should operate in parallel. Federici’s position, on the other hand, gravitated towards how the commons—or the practice of commoning—can be a transformative form of reproduction, leading into a discussion wherein the notion of building a commons intrinsically means building a collective subject with the desire to reclaim resources.

Here follows a condensed and edited report of the conversations on 31 January and 1 February.

DAY ONE: Defining the Commons

The Notion of the Commons by Silvia Federici

Federici speaks from her experience within the anti-globalisation movement, the teachers’ and students’ movement, and the feminist movement among others. Her essay “Feminism and the Politics of the Common in an Era of Primitive Accumulation”, included in her recently published book, Revolution at Point Zero, has been crucial in defining the commons. In it she paints a loose, working definition of the commons as radical change, not to be considered as things, but rather, as social relations.

Comprising many different forms, the commons are a system that has existed for thousands of years. It refers to a broad range of activities where people come together and exercise a communal control over the means of their reproduction—land and other forms of natural as well as social wealth—and in this process, create new forms of cooperation outside the logic of state and market.

Federici describes the commons as a system with many historical precedents, but also as a contemporary response to the “point zero” crisis of neoliberalism. Two key elements that characterise the commons are the idea of the alternative (to the state and market) and the concepts of cooperation and solidarity. Federici outlines two different forms of commons: the emerging digital/technological commons (i.e., the Internet as the potential “commoning” of communication, presumably amplifying rather than depleting common resources), and the reproductive commons, insisting that commons are not just assets but primarily social relations. She speaks about the risk that commons be co-opted possibly legitimizing the sweeping privatisation of lands, forests and bodies of water that is taking place on a global scale. We must be aware that neoliberal economists and policymakers are interested in the idea of the commons, and there is a danger that commons may become the means by which capitalism can relaunch itself for another few centuries.

Pointing out that commons already exist both in the form of communally owned lands and various forms of collectivity, Federici cites examples in Chile, Peru, Nigeria and the US as well. They include land reclamations through urban farming, time banks, cooperative forms of reproductive work like the comedores populares [communal kitchens] in Latin America. Federici acknowledges that the creation of these commons might be a modest starting point, but she argues that it evidences a growing awareness among millions of people that another world is not only possible but necessary. “This world as it is,” she says, “is a world that cannot reproduce us. Unless we come together and reconstruct the social fabric of our towns, creating new solidarity bonds, we will not be able to wage the type of struggle that we need to regain control over our lives and reclaim the wealth that we have produced. We have to see the commons not only as an objective to be reached in the future, but as the base for our struggle.”

Tine De Moor and the Institution for Collective Action

While Europe has undergone increased privatisation since the 1980s, De Moor notes that conversely there has been a recent “rediscovery of collectivity” among citizens who on a neighbourhood level address their local needs through collaborative consumption and production. De Moor cites childcare, elderly care, peer-to-peer movements, car-sharing, “share-some-sugar” and Utrecht-based Broodfonds [Bread Funds] as examples of these intra-community endeavours. She goes on to speak of how until the end of the eighteenth century organisations such as commons and guilds were resilient and effective in dealing with crises and internal problems. It was with the Enlightenment, the individualisation of society, the rise of capitalism and the emergence of the nation-state and top-down power that the disappearance of collective organisations was ensured. De Moor relates our contemporary situation to the Middle Ages: once again, the state and market are unable to provide the goods and services demanded by citizens, leading to the emergence of new cooperatives and collective initiatives.

De Moor speaks of successful cooperatives investing heavily into participation by informing participants of the rules and encouraging them to be present in meetings so that the rules are internalised and consequences are understood. She says, “‘Social control’ is a bit of a dirty word, but it is often an efficient and effective way to prevent . . . . No one can get a free ride if this responsibility gets circulated and everyone participates.”

In discussing self-governance and exclusivity within the commons, De Moor says, “I like to give the example of my toothbrush: I want to stick to my personal toothbrush, I don’t want to share, and there are a lot of other things we don’t want to share, but then you just have to pay for your own toothbrush.” De Moor continues that there will always be people who are not capable, not willing, or do not have the necessary skills to join collectivities. Thus the responsibility to provide goods and services will fall to the government and the market. However, it is vital to have collective institutions to solve problems more effectively and to “stick close to local problems.”

De Moor stresses that technology is not always a solution to problems and that introducing technological solutions can even erode community-driven initiatives. She uses the example of a community based around a ditch in the earth from which community members accessed water. Because the ditch was essentially mud, every year the community members joined together to reconstruct and dig out the ditch anew. From this, the community had established its cooperative dynamic: you could take water but you had to help out to monitor and clean the ditch. When an NGO entered and poured in concrete to “solve” the mud problem, the collective relations based on the shared responsibilities and cooperation completely fell apart.

Silvia Federici and Tine De Moor with the Public 3

P (person from the public): You mentioned this problematic relationship with the government regarding many initiatives for energy and childcare. But I think that artists and cultural producers too take on these initiatives, especially within the city. What I find interesting is your criticism of the public services the government provides. I think this is also the case with artists or cultural producers intervening in the use and design of public space. If they want to do it in a different way from the government, you get these frictions. The (Dutch) government wants to hand over these types of responsibilities, but then it really would need to give much more space. How can we make this work?

TDM (Tine De Moor): We have a few projects running right now in our research group, especially on this issue of dealing with the government. We’re trying to identify those frictions, inventory them, in collaboration with the Ministry of Internal Affairs. They really are interested in what frictions there are and what rules can be eliminated to give more room to these initiatives. You have to let them initiate themselves—that’s the basic issue—it’s counterintuitive to leave it up to civil servants; you have to see what happens and let it happen.

P: Yes, but it’s a little strange if the government gives away these resources but at the same time forces people to give form to it according to its own agenda.

TDM: There are some ideas within the academic world about what is called “polycentricity”. What we know in society today is hierarchy and a top-down implementation of rules, but polycentricity works in a different way; instead of a top-down structure, you work with nodes, with other organisations with similar needs. It’s a new way of thinking about hierarchy; there isn’t a hierarchy but rather there are connections.

P: The government also uses these collaborative organisations and initiatives as an excuse to pull back, and that’s also something Silvia Federici said in her talk: that the commons could also become a vehicle for capitalism to relaunch itself. Do you see this danger as well?

TDM: Well I’m not sure about that, but I started with the example of Groupon, one of these companies that try to get commercial benefits out of consumer collectivity. They’re falling apart because they thought there was no limit to what they could demand. There are a lot of problems right now with commercial organisations like Groupon: they might say to a hairdresser, “We’ll sell 300 haircuts for you for the next year,” but the local hairdresser says, “We don’t have time to do all of that.” So the collective benefit collapses; it doesn’t work because commercialization kills itself. There was a barrier against commercialisation, and those rules were not implemented or dictated by a government, but they were set by the people themselves. Because they realised that if we don’t stop commercialization, we will lose our collective resources. And that’s the power of the group, the common sense, basically. It’s interesting to see that these were really sustainable institutions because they knew, “if I overuse mine now, as an individual, I will not be able to or my children will not be able to use it in a few years.” There are a lot of arguments to indicate that collectivity might self-correct more easily than the individual; the individual sees short-term, personal benefits rather than long-term advantages.

P: How can we dismantle corporate structures for which this doesn’t seem to work?

TDM: I often say we have to give these institutions the room to fail, as we’ve given all the other institutions—private, state—the room to fail. A lot of people think this is “a reaction against the crisis”, but I don’t think of this as a common denominator for why we see this in the Netherlands, or Greece; it’s not the crisis but privatisation and insufficient provisions from the state, that’s the common denominator. If it were a reaction to the crisis, it still wouldn’t explain why we see so many commons and other forms of institutions living through all these crises. They didn’t emerge because of the crisis, it was the opposite: their collectivity managed to prevent succumbing to the crisis. I don’t see commons as a weapon against corporations; I see it as an alternative.

P: Something I found very interesting in your talk is that the commons that you mostly saw in history is a type of exclusive organisation. I wonder if there could be a type of commons with diversity as a leading force. I would love that and I would go into it immediately. Or the type where the only ones who might be excluded would be those who do not embrace a cooperative system and multiplicity.

TDM: There is no consensus within scientific research about the issue of heterogeneity; most groups function because they try to work on the basis of homogeneity. But there are also situations where heterogeneity may be a benefit. For example, people don’t need the same thing at the same age. But there’s no answer in literature whether one or the other works best for collectivity. Historical cooperatives were comprised of large and small, rich and poor farmers.

SF (Silvia Federici): Diversity is very important, but we must also make sure that the commons we create are not structured in an hierarchical way. Commons in the past, e.g., on the feudal manors, were not necessarily egalitarian. Today as well there are hierarchies in many existing commons. In Africa, as the land is shrinking, those who have more power within the communal structure are revising the rules deciding who belongs and who doesn’t belong to the commons. For example, in some parts of Africa, women who have entered the community through marriage are being excluded from the commons. Thus some women say, “We don’t want communal land ownership because commons are patriarchal.” So, to answer your first question: diversity is absolutely necessary. Homogeneity is a problem because it creates gated communities. But we must also ensure that communal relations are fully egalitarian.

It is also important to recognise that many people view commons only as means for improving our lives; but to me they are means for changing the system. For example, the Occupy movement organised itself as a sort of common. Occupy was a big experiment in communal living, not only in Zuccotti Park, but in the many other places in the US that also had encampments. The time spent together, discussing, holding assemblies, preparing food, making posters, cleaning … was a powerful experience; many of the youth that lived it had their lives transformed. There was a point during the occupation at Zuccotti Park when hundreds of meals were being served everyday: it required a great amount of organisation, a commoning of reproduction and communication on a large scale. At the same time, a split developed between those who saw Occupy as only a means to improve their lives and those who wanted this commoning be the springboard for a more radical transformation. The forms of reproduction that emerged from Occupy were more communal, more cooperative, but did not always look outside of themselves, outside of the community that had come together. Some people, for example, wanted to exclude the homeless, who were attracted to the encampments because they provided a kind of security, a communal life and resources they did not have, like food and tents. So, some would say, “Hey, these people are freeloading.” In some places they called the police when some of the homeless caused problems. Others instead insisted that the collectivity had the power to find other solutions.

The question is: What are the commons for? What are the principles that shape their everyday life? There are many communities organising on the basis of homogeneous relations: elderly communities, religious communities. Even real estate agencies are now thinking of constructing compounds for middle class families. But these are not commons that create qualitatively different social relations and transform the world.

P: I’m curious about your vision. Tine just said that there is a scientific literature on some of these subjects, but you obviously see something different. You have a sort of vision, it may not be utopian, but still. You said, “We must deconstruct the social structure of present society.” I assume politically and economically as well. Do the commons—in whatever shape or form—take over society completely in your vision?

SF: For me the idea of the commons is that of a society built on the principle of solidarity rather than the principle of self-interest and competition. It is a society in which wealth is shared, there is collective decision making, and production is for our wellbeing and not for monetary accumulation. So it would involve a radical change. I would not call it a take over, however. That society is still only on the horizon. But we can begin to create new types of relations. In the US, some groups are experimenting with “accountability structures” to avoid turning to the police when a problem emerges. These are communal structures that work with a person who has behaved in an abusive way. I see this kind of initiative as an example of construction of commons. It is an idea inspired by the example of the indigenous communities in Latin America, where the ultimate sanction is expulsion from the community.

P: It seems to me that certain small communities, tribal perhaps, are being used increasingly as the model for how we expect to transform society today. Aren’t you replacing society with the commons? Then the whole exclusive/inclusive question comes back: “Who takes care of those that fall out of the commons?”

SF: If you want to be part of a common you have to follow certain rules that ideally you have contributed to establish. The first rules are solidarity and cooperation with other people. Refusing these principles should be the only condition for exclusion. But when you have refused the principle of cooperation, you have already excluded yourself from the common.

P: Yes, that’s very clear and I’m not at all opposed to that. I’m just curious, because a lot of it comes down to scale, and one of the issues is how to manage that, because it seems that our nations have become so large…

SF: Yes, this is true. The groups who are creating accountability structures have done interesting work connecting with grassroots organisations. In a community you have different types of organisations, for instance housing organisations, fighting against rent increases or against foreclosures, or creating urban gardens. The point is to think of them together, to think of how they can support each other and create something more cohesive. We also need commons because in the present economic and political environment it is difficult to win any victory unless we make a struggle that involves the whole community. Working class organisations, in the past, did that, until the 1930s, they organised around healthcare issues, pensions, work accidents. The question for us is how we can connect the different commoning initiatives that are being created. How we can connect the time banks with the urban gardens and/or with the accountability projects I mentioned. I think that by answering this question we begin to address the question of scale.

P: My question is related to something that Tine De Moor was speaking about: how collective action would look within the government. How do you think that the idea of the commons can be protected from being used by the prevailing structures, for example neoliberalism? Capitalism says, “Thanks to our being such an open system, these kinds of initiatives can grow.” But it’s not their victory, it’s our reaction against them…

SF: Certainly governments have tried to use and coopt the idea of the commons. [David] Cameron’s Big Society program uses the idea of the commons and community mobilisation to exploit unpaid labour and create forms of voluntarism that enable the government to cut social services. But commons are not a form of unpaid labour. They are the embryos of a cooperative society, as well as a base from which to reclaim resources from the state, because we don’t want to build our commons on the basis of a redistribution of poverty.

How do we avoid cooptation? We do it by ensuring that our commoning activities expand our access to the wealth we produce and undermine the divisions that have been built between us. This brings us to the question of the relationship between the common and the public. There is a profound difference between the two. The public is still “private” because we do not control it. I am not suggesting that we should not defend public services from the attack presently waged against them. What I say is that any struggle that we make to defend the public—whether it is public education or public healthcare—should include an element of the common. For example, we need to fight against the privatisation and commercialisation of education, but at the same time we need to build “knowledge commons”, because, the spaces within the institutions in which we can produce knowledge are rapidly shrinking. If we want to produce knowledge, we have to create it ourselves. We still have to defend the public, because the public has the resources we need. But our struggle should open the way to a transformation from the public to the commons. I’ll give you another example: the Water Wars in Bolivia. When the Bolivian government gave the water system of Bolivia to a French company, Suez, the privatisation was so tight that people could be criminalised for collecting rainwater. But indigenous communities, Quechua, Aymara, came together, formed a sort of common, “La Coordinadora”, and were able to push back this privatisation. Then people said, “Why should we stop here and give back the water to the State? Why don’t we develop the social and technical skills that will allow us to control the water from below?” So the struggle against privatisation can have a different horizon than just defending the public.

P: This makes me think of a documentary I saw, where a speaker said, “Everybody accepts capitalism not because they think it’s the best, but because it’s the only thing they know.” If you say, “Could another system work?” people say, “No, to decentralise it wouldn’t work.” But how can we know if the only thing we do know is a centralised system? So maybe it’s a matter of a cultural change, of making people understand.

SF: Yes, but much has changed in the last 25 years. Many people today have no alternative but to try to create another form of existence, because they are losing all the means they had to reproduce themselves and neither the state nor the market are providing for their reproduction.

One problem we face today is the illusion that technology, especially digital technology, can by itself bring new forms of cooperation and even new forms of wealth. We are told that the internet brings people together, and is the only type of “common” that expands with use instead of being depleted. But the Internet cannot replace face to face contact, and it cannot replace access to land, forests, waters. Moreover, the technology that computers use is an ecological disaster; it uses enormous quantities of water and soil that come from the destruction of lands in many parts of the world, beginning with Africa.

P: Concerning the way people come together, Occupy was confusing as it was such an inclusive movement. Anybody could join at any time and participate in the meetings and express their opinion. People were more inclined to go there because they could participate at any time. At the same time decisions were never made clear, and people started to do things without informing each other, without sharing information and making decisions together. This is something that I have been struggling with. The inclusiveness of the movement was a beautiful thing, and also the multitude that was brought together, but it also created very practical problems.

SF: It is a question of taking responsibility. Commons are not just places you take from, they are places where you have to give. In other words, commons are not just about “rights”; they are also about “obligations”. In the case of the [Occupy] assemblies you have obligations to other people, to make sure your intervention is a contribution to the discussion. On this basis, I object to the idea of “global commons”. Clearly our lives can be impacted by what is taking place in other parts of the world. But it does not give us the right to make decisions for these places, when there are people living in them who have been there for generations, and who are immediately affected by what happens in these localities, and are taking care of their environment. They work the land, they care for the forests. They have the right to make the decisions. The principle should be that those who do the work and those who do the caring should have a say. Building a commons is building a collective subject; building a common interest, and undermining the divisions that have been created among us. It is not creating rules of exclusion, but finding ways in which we can begin to tear down the fences between us, not only the material fences but also the social fences.

P: I definitely agree but I saw that it was super difficult, because there was a lot of competition. For example, something that was really difficult was the connection to the outside world. This was important. We needed to spread the word. At the same time, there was so much hype. We suddenly became a group of artists who were asked about things by all these institutions and we were suddenly part of the institutional framework, which we didn’t want, but was also appealing.4

P: The problem is that there was not a clear political agenda. What people experienced in Occupy Amsterdam was more this idea of: “Let’s try to live collectively.” But it was not clear what we were struggling for. Basically people said : “Let’s try to build a commons,” in the sense of collective actions and cooperatives. But what was missing was the political agenda, about what we wanted to build up…

SF: Yes, all these problems emerge: people drop out, people join in, but the Occupy movement is not finished. We see now how important it has been, how many new projects have evolved out of it. Even with all the negativities, conflicts and contradictions, the fact remains that thousands of young people, and also older people, came in contact with a reality that was completely invisible to them. For example, the reality of the homeless, the reality of people in the neighbourhood. They also began to understand what a territory or a square is; what they are socially, what kind of things happen in these places. What are the power relations that traverse them. How our practices shape them. The territory became a source of knowledge, and we began to see in these micro-spaces a whole new social reality. It was a great educational experience, in addition to the educational experience of being together, of speaking, thinking together, body to body, and not through a computer.

There were obviously contradictions. In Zuccotti Park, women built a tent which they called a “Safety-tent”, because in the name of commoning, some men would put their hands on their bodies. So they created this space and said, “Here you can come only with our permission.” However, Occupy was a true educational, consciousness raising process. After Occupy assemblies have taken place in different boroughs. There was Occupy Brooklyn, Occupy Staten Island. People have been mobilising against evictions, against rent increases, and out of Occupy has come Strike Debt, an organisation that fights against the debt economy and to ensure that the necessities of life–housing, healthcare, education–are no longer treated as commodities. We have also had Occupy Sandy. Sandy was a storm that flooded a good part of the city, including parts of Manhattan that were in the dark for two weeks. But here the city responded immediately, whereas nothing was done for the coastal areas of the city where poor people lived. These places didn’t see any help for a long time. So the Occupy Movement organised itself to bring them some support. On any given day, for weeks, people went to bring food, clothes, torch lights because the electrical power had been cut off, and to clean the mold out of the buildings. This shows that the hours spent together in the Occupy movement, and the idea of creating something in common, were more than a fire soon spent. There are still working groups, knowledge commons, and, as I already mentioned, there is a new movement called Strike Debt, which came out of Occupy to deal with the problem of debt, especially student debt. Due to the commercialisation of education, now, in the US, every student that graduates has an average of US $30,000 of debt. Presumably after you graduate you get a job and in this way you can pay back your debt, but this is less and less true. People graduate and discover that they don’t get a job, or not one enabling them to pay back their debts, and they begin to default on their payments, and then the interest rates go up, and soon they become indentured servants to a bank or to a collection agency. These agencies call you at night, they call your mother, your employer, your lover, anyone you know. So, for years there was the idea of building a student-teacher movement against the debt, because teachers are involved too. How can you teach students when your class is going to put them in debt? As a teacher you cannot close your eyes to the fact that by taking your course your students are adding another debt to the one they have.

But for all the discussions, an anti-student debt movement never got the power to take off. It was during Occupy that people got that power. Talking together they discovered they all had debts, and began to get over the guilt that people feel in this situation, and realise that this is a class issue. And it is not only student debt. People now are using credit cards to pay for healthcare, to buy food. In fact, Strike Debt fights against all these forms of debt. Their principle is that education, healthcare and the necessities of life should not be commercialised and turned into commodities and most importantly, that we should fight not only to abolish the debt but to create a society where you do not have to pay and fall into debt to have an education and healthcare. Their principle is that these debts are illegitimate. Therefore they reject the idea that not paying back your debt is immoral.

P: This question is more about the European countries. If we are at “point zero”, what would be the best investment for our time and energy? Should we build commons here? What would prevent the businesses situated in this country from exploiting commons in other countries?

SF: You have to begin with yourself. In the 1960s, during the Freedom Rides, black people would tell young whites going down South, “You can’t really help us unless you see your own exploitation, if you’re doing it only for us then there is a problem. But if you recognise that your well-being is also involved, then we begin to communicate, and we communicate on a basis of equality.” I don’t know about the Netherlands, but I see that in Europe as well, everything is being privatised. This is a good place to start from. If you begin to struggle against privatisation at home you will find ways to prevent your country or the EU from exploiting people across the world, as they are doing now.

Also keep in mind that you cannot have a good life when a good part of the world is being expropriated from their means of subsistence. You should not assume that you can thrive in a happy island surrounded by a sea of misery. We already see that the kind of “structural adjustment” programs that were used in the 1980s and 1990s to transfer the wealth of Africa and Latin America back to Europe or the US, are now being extended to Greece, Spain, Italy and Ireland. So there is a material basis for international solidarity, and we can be most effective when we can see how the exploitation of other people connects with our everyday life.

P: Before you said that the commons is “the embryo of a new society”. So my question is: Can you give a gender to the idea of the commons?

SF: Yes, it is primarily women who are “producing commons” today. Because women have been made more responsible toward the reproduction of their families and because the male wage has broken down, women are at the forefront of the production of commons. The family system, the nuclear family based on the wage of the husband and wife, is no longer functioning. More and more in Latin America, Africa and many parts of Asia families are headed by women. And we see the same trend also in the US. At the proletarian level marriage has collapsed and the whole family system is in a great process of restructuring. This is why, women are in the lead forming what I call “reproductive commons”, that is commons providing sustenance, like urban gardens, time banks. Women are carrying on a grand domestic revolution! This is now being acknowledged also by leading male political theorists like Raúl Zibechi who is one of the most prominent radical political theorists in Latin America. In his very powerful work, Territories in Resistance: A Cartography of Latin American Social Movements (2012), which he published with AK Press, he describes the reproduction revolution that is taking place in the region, headed by women, and speaks of “societies in movement”. Men have to join this domestic revolution; this is what we women have been praying for, for a long time!

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  1. Silvia Federici, Revolution at Point Zero: Housework, Reproduction, and Feminist Struggle (Oakland: PM Press, 2012)
  2. Casco’s Grand Domestic Revolution project has since travelled to different institutions including: The Showroom, London; CCA Derry~Londonderry, Derry; The City of Women Festival, Ljubljana; Tensta konsthall, Stockholm. In addition, the Grand Domestic Revolution Handbook is forthcoming in May 2014 from Casco and Valiz. For more information on GDR see: http://www.cascoprojects.org/gdr.
  3. Tine De Moor had to leave the discussion early. In this text the voices of Platform Beeldende Kunst and Elke Uitentuis are part of the public.
  4. Informally joined together as Artists Occupy Amsterdam.